Comments on: A Brief Timeline of Blowback http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/ Pursuing a Free, Voluntary, Peaceful World Mon, 07 Jan 2013 04:30:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: David Kretzmann http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-357 David Kretzmann Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:41:39 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-357 No, but the World Trade Center was also attacked in 1993. No, but the World Trade Center was also attacked in 1993.

]]> By: bobby http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-355 bobby Sat, 01 Oct 2011 07:25:44 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-355 Hello, Interesting post but, unless I'm missing something, it reads that 9/11 happend in 1993? Bobby Hello,

Interesting post but, unless I’m missing something, it reads that 9/11 happend in 1993?

Bobby

]]> By: David Kretzmann http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-353 David Kretzmann Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:55:32 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-353 Very true. History has many incidents of blowback with the U.S. and other countries. For simplicity's sake, I focused this discussion on post-WWII incidents, which is when the U.S. has clearly ignored the Constitution and wholeheartedly endorsed an interventionist foreign policy. Very true. History has many incidents of blowback with the U.S. and other countries. For simplicity’s sake, I focused this discussion on post-WWII incidents, which is when the U.S. has clearly ignored the Constitution and wholeheartedly endorsed an interventionist foreign policy.

]]> By: Republicae http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-342 Republicae Mon, 26 Sep 2011 00:26:47 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-342 We look at "blowback" as a recent phenomenon however, we can go back to Spanish American War, one of the first examples of a deliberate policy intervention by this government, excluding, of course, the Union invasion of the Free, Sovereign and Independent State Republics of the South. Other examples that had extremely wide "blowback" was our entry into WWI, at the time both sides were running out of resources, the political will to continue the war was waning and both sides would have probably sued for a peaceful resolution had the U.S. not entered the war. With our entry of course, came victory with that victory came the break-up of several powers, one being the Ottoman Empire. The Middle East was hacked up into artificial states creating an artificial ethnic mix in most of the newly created states. Autocratic governments were installed, controlled for the most part by the victors of the war with the interests of those who won at the forefront of each installed government. Today, we are still facing the "blowback" from those events. But even further, we can say that the Treaty of Versailles, with its extremely harsh terms created the platform for the Germany of Hitler, in fact, it is doubtful that Hitler would have ever gained power had he not played upon the resentment of the German people toward their treatment after WWI. Imagine, if you will, that WWI had ended with a peaceful settlement, that the Middle East instead of being artificially carved up would have followed a more natural pattern of state creation after the gradual disintegration of the Ottoman Empire. Imagine, if you will, that there was no Treaty of Versailles, no soap-box upon which a lonely failed artist named Adolf Hitler to stand upon. Imagine no WWI, no genocide of the Jewish People in Europe, no artificially created state called Israel. The world today would be a very different place had this country steered clear of the interventionist polices that have taken place over the last 122 years or so, if we would have stayed out of the affairs of over 200 countries around the world for all these decades. One thing is certain, the policy has not worked, it has not made this country nor the world a safer place, just look around at the world this country has, in a very real sense, created. We look at “blowback” as a recent phenomenon however, we can go back to Spanish American War, one of the first examples of a deliberate policy intervention by this government, excluding, of course, the Union invasion of the Free, Sovereign and Independent State Republics of the South.

Other examples that had extremely wide “blowback” was our entry into WWI, at the time both sides were running out of resources, the political will to continue the war was waning and both sides would have probably sued for a peaceful resolution had the U.S. not entered the war. With our entry of course, came victory with that victory came the break-up of several powers, one being the Ottoman Empire. The Middle East was hacked up into artificial states creating an artificial ethnic mix in most of the newly created states. Autocratic governments were installed, controlled for the most part by the victors of the war with the interests of those who won at the forefront of each installed government. Today, we are still facing the “blowback” from those events.

But even further, we can say that the Treaty of Versailles, with its extremely harsh terms created the platform for the Germany of Hitler, in fact, it is doubtful that Hitler would have ever gained power had he not played upon the resentment of the German people toward their treatment after WWI. Imagine, if you will, that WWI had ended with a peaceful settlement, that the Middle East instead of being artificially carved up would have followed a more natural pattern of state creation after the gradual disintegration of the Ottoman Empire. Imagine, if you will, that there was no Treaty of Versailles, no soap-box upon which a lonely failed artist named Adolf Hitler to stand upon. Imagine no WWI, no genocide of the Jewish People in Europe, no artificially created state called Israel.

The world today would be a very different place had this country steered clear of the interventionist polices that have taken place over the last 122 years or so, if we would have stayed out of the affairs of over 200 countries around the world for all these decades. One thing is certain, the policy has not worked, it has not made this country nor the world a safer place, just look around at the world this country has, in a very real sense, created.

]]> By: David Kretzmann http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-319 David Kretzmann Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:09:19 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-319 Thank you for your comment, Sheila! I agree that this is a terrible system of deception, backstabbing, and the unfortunate thing is that it creates enemies (not peace). Keep up your great efforts! Thank you for your comment, Sheila! I agree that this is a terrible system of deception, backstabbing, and the unfortunate thing is that it creates enemies (not peace). Keep up your great efforts!

]]> By: sheila hitchcock tomasino http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-313 sheila hitchcock tomasino Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:47:44 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-313 i will keep this short &sweet.. i am sick and tired of our country bullying other smaller countries..even a blind man can see,we only go in and mess with any country with anything of value..we rape and plunder anything & everything they have..we r stealing..and if they DARE to raise a hand..we raise an army. its the sneakiest..we friend them,then steal,then turn against them,point blame somewhere else and get everyone else involved as a child who starts gossip and fights amongst others.it just WRONG and CHEAP. do we help africa???no..not even when we hear of woman and children brutilized in the most UNIMAGINABLE ways. we only stick our fingers into their pockets,their pie!then we leave then HIGH and DRY like a cheap date! we also TRAIN alll these killers and terrorists..mercinaries.. since i can remember..even all the way back to vietnam..does anyone else even realize..not sure now..but @one time..vietnam was only considered a "skirmish"lol..a conflict..look how many died..we have paid with blood for all we have done..and still we r everywhere..in everything.its what OUR country has done best.LIE,CHEAT & STEAL.and now..they have not only robbed these other countries of EVERY last drop of resources they have..but now,they rob us..its citizens too. i LOVE my country..but i HATE the ones in charge..i hate our "values"as if!..i hate our double standard of living. its disgusting to say the least..and i want to vomit. i am glad to see u put this out there david..all those who hate muslims and ALL other nationalities,religions and cultures should read ur report.it is right on the MONEY! i will keep this short &sweet..
i am sick and tired of our country bullying other smaller countries..even a blind man can see,we only go in and mess with any country with anything of value..we rape and plunder anything & everything they have..we r stealing..and if they DARE to raise a hand..we raise an army.
its the sneakiest..we friend them,then steal,then turn against them,point blame somewhere else and get everyone else involved as a child who starts gossip and fights amongst others.it just WRONG and CHEAP.
do we help africa???no..not even when we hear of woman and children brutilized in the most UNIMAGINABLE ways.
we only stick our fingers into their pockets,their pie!then we leave then HIGH and DRY like a cheap date!
we also TRAIN alll these killers and terrorists..mercinaries..
since i can remember..even all the way back to vietnam..does anyone else even realize..not sure now..but @one time..vietnam was only considered a “skirmish”lol..a conflict..look how many died..we have paid with blood for all we have done..and still we r everywhere..in everything.its what OUR country has done best.LIE,CHEAT & STEAL.and now..they have not only robbed these other countries of EVERY last drop of resources they have..but now,they rob us..its citizens too.
i LOVE my country..but i HATE the ones in charge..i hate our “values”as if!..i hate our double standard of living.
its disgusting to say the least..and i want to vomit.
i am glad to see u put this out there david..all those who hate muslims and ALL other nationalities,religions and cultures should read ur report.it is right on the MONEY!

]]> By: Mary Kretzmann http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-309 Mary Kretzmann Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:38:12 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-309 Right; the whole thing is messed up, and this a helpful link you just posted. My only point is that there is another side to the coin, but our misdeeds do no good at all. So - point well taken. Right; the whole thing is messed up, and this a helpful link you just posted. My only point is that there is another side to the coin, but our misdeeds do no good at all. So – point well taken.

]]> By: David Kretzmann http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-308 David Kretzmann Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:02:14 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-308 You do realize that the U.S. gives three times more money to Israel's Arab enemies than to Israel itself? I'm not claiming the statements are necessarily just or 100% correct, but the U.S. has not improved the situation with military intervention. Israel has oftentimes been frustrated with the U.S. when they are treated like a child and unable to perform their own governance. This is an interesting site: <a href="http://www.americansforisrael.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americansforisrael.com/</a> You do realize that the U.S. gives three times more money to Israel’s Arab enemies than to Israel itself? I’m not claiming the statements are necessarily just or 100% correct, but the U.S. has not improved the situation with military intervention. Israel has oftentimes been frustrated with the U.S. when they are treated like a child and unable to perform their own governance.

This is an interesting site: http://www.americansforisrael.com/

]]> By: Mary Kretzmann http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-305 Mary Kretzmann Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:16:59 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-305 Hi David, Regarding this quote by Bin laden: "...America won’t get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel.” It is eerily like Mohammad's final deathbed wish that all Jews be eradicated from the Arabian Peninsula. However our policies have not helped matters. Ron Paul does explain it well here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-santorum-tells-rep-ron-paul-to-stop-parroting-osama-bin-laden-in-cnn-debate/ But - there was also a very strong, nasty alliance between Hitler and the Mufti of Jerusalem which lead to the elimination of 6 million Jews... The mufti was much worse on this than Hitler - he egged Hitler on. My point is that those statements above about Israel are very, very loaded, and go beyond current US policy. It is good to be aware on all levels. But I do agree the CIA has done way too many dark deeds - and that never helps. Hi David,

Regarding this quote by Bin laden:

“…America won’t get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel.”

It is eerily like Mohammad’s final deathbed wish that all Jews be eradicated from the Arabian Peninsula.

However our policies have not helped matters.
Ron Paul does explain it well here:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-santorum-tells-rep-ron-paul-to-stop-parroting-osama-bin-laden-in-cnn-debate/

But – there was also a very strong, nasty alliance between Hitler and the Mufti of Jerusalem which lead to the elimination of 6 million Jews… The mufti was much worse on this than Hitler – he egged Hitler on.

My point is that those statements above about Israel are very, very loaded, and go beyond current US policy. It is good to be aware on all levels. But I do agree the CIA has done way too many dark deeds – and that never helps.

]]> By: David Kretzmann http://davidkretzmann.com/2010/09/a-brief-timeline-of-blowback/#comment-66 David Kretzmann Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:28:52 +0000 http://davidkretzmann.com/?p=167#comment-66 Hi Kevin, I replied to your email, let me know if you didn't get it. It'd be great to meet up! I'll look into getting the forums back up and running. I switched the setup of the site so it may take awhile, but definitely comment on the blog posts in the meantime - people will be able to view and discuss as they feel to. Hi Kevin,

I replied to your email, let me know if you didn’t get it. It’d be great to meet up!

I’ll look into getting the forums back up and running. I switched the setup of the site so it may take awhile, but definitely comment on the blog posts in the meantime – people will be able to view and discuss as they feel to.

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